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As you guys should be aware by now I am a newbie to digital photography and love to ask stupid questions.

What is the fascination with these small bodies when you put a huge honking lens on it? Wouldn't you have been better off with a DSLR?

What is it that I am not understanding?


Personally the small form factor coupled with the great IQ sold it for me. I primarily use it with the pancake lens which makes it an ideal street shooter set up. I bought the 45-200 for extra reach when needed. Plus I just received my m4/3 to eos adapter so now I can use my existing Canon lenses as well, be it with manual focus only. It is a very versatile system.

If I were just looking to upgrade from a point and shoot and I would be very happy with this as my primary system.


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fionah wrote:
As you guys should be aware by now I am a newbie to digital photography and love to ask stupid questions.

What is the fascination with these small bodies when you put a huge honking lens on it? Wouldn't you have been better off with a DSLR?

What is it that I am not understanding?


Personally the small form factor coupled with the great IQ sold it for me. I primarily use it with the pancake lens which makes it an ideal street shooter set up. I bought the 45-200 for extra reach when needed. Plus I just received my m4/3 to eos adapter so now I can use my existing Canon lenses as well, be it with manual focus only. It is a very versatile system.

If I were just looking to upgrade from a point and shoot and I would be very happy with this as my primary system.


since the EOS lenses have no aperture control on the lens themselves, you can only shoot wide open, right?


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I read somewhere if the eos lens is on a canon body and you were to something like set up for DOF preview and turn the camera off at that time the lens will stay in the stopped down state. I forget the exact procedure. That at least gives some option, like pre setting the aperture to the lens so called sweet spot for image quality.


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I read somewhere if the eos lens is on a canon body and you were to something like set up for DOF preview and turn the camera off at that time the lens will stay in the stopped down state. I forget the exact procedure. That at least gives some option, like pre setting the aperture to the lens so called sweet spot for image quality.


I don't have a digital EOS body, but I do have an old film EOS. It does not have dof preview, however if I put it in manual mode, set any fstop and set for a long exposure, press the shutter and remove the lens before the exposure is complete, the lens is left stpped down to what ever aperture I had set.


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Yes, you can set the aperture while the lens is on the Canon body and then transfer it to the m4/3 body so you technically do not have to always shoot wide open. It's the same procedure as when you are doing the reverse macro technique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-IafRN2g2g


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What do you guys think of new coming Sony EVIL? Ok, not really m43 mount.. maybe I should start a new topic instead?


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Olympus E-PL1 on sale @ Black's until Friday:

http://www.blackphoto.com/blacks/jump/c ... d=cat40008


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Olympus E-PL1 on sale @ Black's until Friday:

http://www.blackphoto.com/blacks/jump/c ... d=cat40008


Stop tempting!


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any word on release of the panasonic 14mm 2.8?


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Update:

Yongnuo YN-04 Mk.II cannot trigger the Olympus FL-36R. However, it can trigger Canon flashes via an Olympus E-P2. I'm told that this is due to the FL-36R's low trigger voltage.

The Cactus V4 can trigger both the FL-36R and Canon flashes via an Olympus E-P2.


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Update: Every "candid" shot from last weekend, at the track, was shot with a E-P2 + 40-150 MkII ;)


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Rob MacLennan wrote:
Update: Every "candid" shot from last weekend, at the track, was shot with a E-P2 + 40-150 MkII ;)

Link please! :)



Some 7-14 samples:

Library:
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Cafeteria:
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Swimming pool:
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My www link, below ;)

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/multime ... mp/candid/


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If anyone is looking for a lens hood for their Pany 20mm pancake lens I use this collapsible rubber one (46mm) and it works great.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Vivitar-46mm-Collaps ... 5637f885b5


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Very cool Rob. That ain't too shabby. I'll give it another go now that I've updated the f/w.

Thx James, I might pick one up. Cheers.


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Well, I took the plunge - got my EP-2 tonight from Vistek in Mississauga. I ended up getting the 14-42 lens (they didn't have the body alone) because I am thinking of picking up the Panasonic 20 when I'm in NY at the end of the month, although Vistek does have a sale on the 20 right now (about $70 or $80 off if I remember correctly). I forgot how pretty the camera is - I can hardly wait to start playing with it. I'm charging the battery right now.

Kinda strange - I've been checking Henry's for a while now and they had the EP-2 with the EVF for $1199 (B&H had the same thing for around $1069). When I called Henry's today, they told me that Olympus no longer selsl the kit with the EVF. Henry's had the body with a lens for $1000 and the EVF is $250. When I went back to B&H, it seems they no longer sell the kit with the EVF (their body+lens is $850 + $250 for the EVF).

I checked Vistek and they seem to still have a few full kits with the EVF at $50 at $1149. So I dashed off and picked one up while I had the chance.


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Congrats Elaine & welcome aboard the m4/3 ship!


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Sucks about them breaking up the kit with viewfinder. I have to admit that if I had been forced to purchase the viewfinder separately, its cost would likely have put me off the purchase completely. I also wouldn't have bought it without the viewfinder.


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they needed to make the EVF available for individual purchase for the E-PL1 - wonder if having to price that out did to the perception of the E-P2's value?

so because I'm too lazy to do the math, assembling the equivalent of the E-P2/EVF/14-42 kit is now more than when you could only buy it in kit format?

btw - I think there's enough of us now for another m43 meet-up? I want to try some peoples' legacy lenses!


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I've been lumping u4/3 in with the Olympus meets, since it's designed to work with 4/3 lenses also and we have a couple of members shooting with legacy glass.


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Yes, by breaking up the kit it is slightly more expensive if you want to add the EVF which is why I went out last night driving from McCowan & 401 to Mavis & 401 in the driving rain to buy the camera. All to save myself $100. But I'm sure it will be worth it :D

By the way, in re-reading my post, the second to last line should read "I checked Vistek and they seem to still have a few full kits with the EVF at $50 OFF at $1149."


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Sigh. Been hoping for the LVF1 for the GF1 to be updated but so far no luck. May just go and get the EVF now. And on that thought, anyone seen it for less than $189 that I see at Aden? (in Canada that is).


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Elaine - ERS wrote:
Well, I took the plunge - got my EP-2 tonight from Vistek in Mississauga. I ended up getting the 14-42 lens (they didn't have the body alone) because I am thinking of picking up the Panasonic 20 when I'm in NY at the end of the month, although Vistek does have a sale on the 20 right now (about $70 or $80 off if I remember correctly). I forgot how pretty the camera is - I can hardly wait to start playing with it. I'm charging the battery right now.

Kinda strange - I've been checking Henry's for a while now and they had the EP-2 with the EVF for $1199 (B&H had the same thing for around $1069). When I called Henry's today, they told me that Olympus no longer selsl the kit with the EVF. Henry's had the body with a lens for $1000 and the EVF is $250. When I went back to B&H, it seems they no longer sell the kit with the EVF (their body+lens is $850 + $250 for the EVF).

I checked Vistek and they seem to still have a few full kits with the EVF at $50 at $1149. So I dashed off and picked one up while I had the chance.


Nice, EP-2 with EVF is a wonderful camera, have fun.


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Well, too took a plunge into the u4/3 world. Got the E-PL1. I was going to get the EP-2, but changed my mind at the last minute. I liked the grip and the weight of the E-PL1 better for single handed operation. I still plan on getting the EVF when it becomed available.

Can't wait to use it this weekend.


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anyone have some suggestions for getting a lomo/holga/pinhole-type lens ont a m43 body? lens and adapter suggestions welcome.

yes, I want to make my Pen images look as cheap as possible if the mood strikes.


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Pinhole art filter? (taken with E-30, but it's on the E-P2 also).

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Rob MacLennan wrote:
Pinhole art filter? (taken with E-30, but it's on the E-P2 also).


yeah, I like the art filter - only one that I find useful. I'd have loved the cross-process one on the E-P2 but that - and EVF - wasn't enough to justify the higher price.

the art filter is still too... sharp. I'd like to get a plastic lens or something similarly grotty on there. I'd like to simulate to some degree the Hipstamatic app on my iPhone with a proper camera. obviously there's a lot of post-processing involved, but getting interesting lenses physically onto the body would be a good start.

just curious.


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I've read about some people buying an extra body cap and drilling it, to create a pinhole "lens"


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Rob MacLennan wrote:
I've read about some people buying an extra body cap and drilling it, to create a pinhole "lens"


yeah, I may try that. I saw some people selling holga lenses mounted on body caps, which would be cool, but nothing for a m43 body - no adapters for body caps yet!


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There's always someone showing pinhole body caps at the Henry's show, and each year I ask if they have them for FourThirds...guess what their answer is?

This is a project I've been working on...at first I tried making the pin hole myself. But I've bought two Hole-on-ex cardboard pinhole cameras that come with a ready-made pinhole to be mounted; so I was going to use the pinhole from that, when I find the time.


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