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Way to go Canon! This 18MP Rebel with HD video will turn a few heads won't it?

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/conten ... 0048-10482


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18.0 Megapixel CMOS (APS-C) sensor and DIGIC 4 Image Processor for high image quality and speed.

ISO 100-6400 (expandable to 12800) for shooting from bright to dim light.

Video:
1080p: 1920 x 1080 pixels at 30fps (actually 29.97fps)
1080p: 1920 x 1080 pixels at 25fps
1080p: 1920 x 1080 pixels at 24fps (actually 23.976fps)
720p: 1280 x 720 pixels at 60fps (actually 59.94fps)
720p: 1280 x 720 pixels at 50fps
SD: 640 x 480 pixels at 60fps (actually 59.94fps)
SD: 640 x 480 pixels at 50fps


And there is much more. I am now questioning the value in a 1Dmk4. Is it worth almost 6x the cost of this?


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Haha.. I just posted the same topic.. guess I didn't type fast enough :lol:


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Don't type. Copy and paste. LOL.

Here is a bit more info.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/contr ... lDetailAct


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Wow, Canon is taking notes from Nikon. Obsolete your cameras every 10 months and cripple the preceding model enough to be worthless in comparison to the new one. I'd be pissed if I was a T1i / 500D owner right about now.

On the other hand, the ISO 6400 shots sure do look nice, for an APS-C sensor. Yay, progress.

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/revie ... /slideshow


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but is 18mp really that much needed in an entry level camera? And can the crop sensor really take it?
I think this is crazy really...


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Magic wrote:
And there is much more. I am now questioning the value in a 1Dmk4. Is it worth almost 6x the cost of this?


Not really seeing why it would effect the price of the 1dmark4 as much... Would you see a professional weighing the pros and cons of a 1d vs a rebel? Hell no... 1d would be the first an only thing in the mind... maybe the 7D, but thats at an extreme...


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That that's some mighty impressive specs for a Rebel camera! Seems like Canon is narrowing the gap of their bodies packing in lots more features into all their bodies.


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Since I rarely change my cameras and don't need high end bodies, this one seems like good replacement for my old rebel, I wanted to have the flexible screen since I like to take shots from low and high angles and don't know how well the 160 degrees work, I am also not sure what a heck I am going to do with 18MP, would rather have 12 and better high iso.


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If it's the same sensor as the 7D, this model will sell well!


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If it's the same sensor as the 7D, this model will sell well!


It produces 17.92 million pixel photos from a self-cleaning CMOS sensor that is nearly identical to that of the EOS 7D. The key difference is the number of readout channels: the 7D's sensor has eight, while the T2i has four.


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It produces 17.92 million pixel photos from a self-cleaning CMOS sensor that is nearly identical to that of the EOS 7D. The key difference is the number of readout channels: the 7D's sensor has eight, while the T2i has four.

Thx! Then it's possible that high ISO noise will be less cleaner than the 7D, no?


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And there is much more. I am now questioning the value in a 1Dmk4. Is it worth almost 6x the cost of this?


Not really seeing why it would effect the price of the 1dmark4 as much... Would you see a professional weighing the pros and cons of a 1d vs a rebel? Hell no... 1d would be the first an only thing in the mind... maybe the 7D, but thats at an extreme...


I don't expect it to affect the price at all and any educated photographer will see where the money goes. Personally, I don't shoot with anything less than an EOS1 series body. It is a powerful tool and offers a reliable platform to run a business from.

The thorn in the side is when an entry level camera offers a spec (albeit a over hyped one) that makes your investment seem dated. I'm not mad at Canon... just humbled.


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My friend bought the T1i in mid Dec. He's gonna be pissed. lol


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sabesh wrote:
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It produces 17.92 million pixel photos from a self-cleaning CMOS sensor that is nearly identical to that of the EOS 7D. The key difference is the number of readout channels: the 7D's sensor has eight, while the T2i has four.

Thx! Then it's possible that high ISO noise will be less cleaner than the 7D, no?


The number of readout channels will affect the readout speed, not necessarily the ISO noise it could go either way depending on design. But the micro lens array is more efficient which should actually help to decrease high ISO noise.


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I'd be pissed if I had just bought a T1i

these cameras are all coming out too close to each other :roll:

great to see so many features packed into something with amazing value.. but come on

I don't see why anyone looking to buy a Rebel possibly need 18MPs

better run out and buy a couple of terabytes for all those HUGE files


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This shouldn't even be considered comparable to 1D series, rebels are much lighter, smaller, plastic, not sealed. They aren't designed to compete with 1D series or 7D for that matter. The latter is larger, weather sealed, heavier. You choose what works for you. If you ask me, I'd take the rebel on a trip to Europe, but 7D on a trip to the tropics... either way this isn't forcing you to upgrade if you're happy with what you have.


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All I have to say is thank you Canon, now I can get the same camera for video work as the 7D for less than half the price.

win :D


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Magic wrote:
And there is much more. I am now questioning the value in a 1Dmk4. Is it worth almost 6x the cost of this?

If you're even considering this question, then it is very likely the 1D Mark IV was never meant for you in the first place.


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And there is much more. I am now questioning the value in a 1Dmk4. Is it worth almost 6x the cost of this?

If you're even considering this question, then it is very likely the 1D Mark IV was never meant for you in the first place.



Ohh...Snap!


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Metrix wrote:
The number of readout channels will affect the readout speed, not necessarily the ISO noise it could go either way depending on design. But the micro lens array is more efficient which should actually help to decrease high ISO noise.

Yes, makes sense. SDHC doesn't support UDMA-6, so the readout is designed accordingly, I'm guessing. You think it has the same gapless microlenses as in the 7D?

EDIT: Yes it does. I just looked up the specs, Ha ha ..


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I think of MP like MPG. They'll keep giving it more and try to make it efficient as possible.
Plus the sensor was already available to them. So no need to design a whole new one.


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"Unlike the 7D, the T2i's built-in flash is not a wireless TTL controller for remote Speedlites."

Booo

"Going forward, the Rebel line will be comprised of three models: the EOS Rebel T2i, EOS Rebel T1i and EOS Rebel XS. The XSi is discontinued."

There goes my XSi, time to upgrade and give it to the gf :D

"The EOS Rebel T2i is compatible with both SDXC memory cards for greater storage capacity and with Eye-Fi SD cards, which are outfitted with a Wi-Fi transmitter (IEEE 802.11b/g) and internal antenna for wireless, high-speed transfer of images. With an Eye-Fi card installed, the EOS Rebel T2i can display the Eye-Fi's connection status and error notes with ease, for fully functional wireless uploading of images directly from the camera."


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I'd be ****** if I had just bought a T1i

these cameras are all coming out too close to each other :roll:

great to see so many features packed into something with amazing value.. but come on

I don't see why anyone looking to buy a Rebel possibly need 18MPs

better run out and buy a couple of terabytes for all those HUGE files


I think its insane to have that many megapixels, i think the comment now when an amateur talks to a pro will be, "how many megapixels do you have" Well i have MORE!
Annoying. Stop the mp race.


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And there is much more. I am now questioning the value in a 1Dmk4. Is it worth almost 6x the cost of this?

If you're even considering this question, then it is very likely the 1D Mark IV was never meant for you in the first place.


In all seriousness, you probably should have a 1D then, frig...


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Sweet camera. Ideal for the power user/advanced photographer looking for the best image quality in the lightest weight, I know that equation is my priority.


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Yeah I know it looks promising, I also need to upgrade my XSI, but I doubt the next one will be Rebel


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PotatoEYE wrote:
Yeah I know it looks promising, I also need to upgrade my XSI, but I doubt the next one will be Rebel


I was thinking the exact same thing... I was shopping for a 50D yesturday, because I didnt think going from a Rebel to a Rebel was worth it. But it looks like this T2i offers all I want (and more). Not bad high ISO ability, half decent video, and the familiarity of a Rebel :).
I'm a little disappointed that my XSi grip wont work with it. Maybe I'll wait 10 months for the next Rebel to come out and pick up the T2i cheap :D


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Oh god. This makes my body upgrade this summer so much simplier :(

get a cheap 50D or a new T2i? or just sell my kidney and get a 7D? :S:S:S


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Yeah I know it looks promising, I also need to upgrade my XSI, but I doubt the next one will be Rebel

i thought gears don't matter to u.... all u need is the ultimate "eye"


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