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The begining of the end for the DX format SLR.

More profit from FX format than DX probably??

So... no AF with D lenses and can't use DX lenses... what are people going to use without buying more expensive lenses?

It's the beginning of the end, not THE END. There will more DX bodies coming but the D300s may be the last Semi Pro DX body. I think they are working toward the 1 series replacing SLR crop cameras and eventually all their SLRs will be FX.

Eric, there is always DX crop mode! But remember their latest lenses are f1.8 and f4 FX lenses that are affordable. Other then a couple of cheap macros, they have not released any DX lenses lately.

I think DX will live on as a high speed crop as the sensors get pixel dense. The D800 is still a fairly high MP crop camera if you put it in DX mode. It's a question of convergence and profit seeking by the camera manufacturers. The profit is in the lenses and accessories and the bodies will be built to sell those. It's also a good way to get people into the system and upsell them down the road.

DX may migrate to the EVF built in zoom bodies to differentiate between that and the P&S though.

24mp
no af motor
plastic body

... Other than the sensor and processor being (slightly?) better (or not), I'd still probably upgrade to a mint D700 for the af motor.. at least for a good year. But who knows, a rumour is a rumour until Nikon confirms it. Interesting idea nonetheless.

Without AF motor, Nikon forces you to buy expensive new lenses, and make up for the little or no profit on D600.

I don't think they are going to get serious enthusiasts to buy one of these if the body will be plastic.

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You're assuming eveyone has old D lesnes which isn't the case. The 35/50/85 1.8 are all really cheap and they just released a patent for a 24-70 3.5-5.6 which will also be affordable.

^the 35 is DX only I think

There is still no AFS wide angle prime for the FX. So far we only have the 50 1.8G and 85 1.8G.

The new 28 1.8G is "N" glass and doesn't really fit here especially in the price range.

I guess the 20 2.8D and 24 2.8D are still the only wide primes left.

There was a patent filed for a 24 FX not long ago though..

Hey R.
I think I know why I stopped coming here in the past, I think it was this "post approval" thing lol


Back on topic, the real question is, is it the end of the Semi-Pro DX ?

Nikon might have gotten the clue when the D7000's ISO results were out and D300/s owners jumped the ship. Ive seen numerous posts and comments all over then net when ppl were ditching their 300/s for the 7K

The answer to that would be: Is Canon planning a 7D update ?

Yes you're right about the 35, but still very usable on FX if you shoo wide open which I did untilthe 1.4 came.

The 28 may be N but it's still relatvely cheap, not 50/85 1.8 cheap but affordable and there is also the 24-120 f4 all in the same range as the 18-200 that sold like so well with the D80 way back when.

I wouldn't be surprised if the D600 came with that rumored 24-70 or something else unknown.

Regardless we're all speculating on speculation! My money is that it will sell like hot cakes just like the D800, actually more so.

Unfortunately the post approval thing is necessary to deal with the spam we get and people coming here solely to sell something. It's an irony that it's a tool to encourage community behaviour. A necessary evil for now.

Once again Nikon is confusing me by blurring the lines between their lines. The D800, in my opinion, removes the need for a D4 for many based on the fact that the majority of photographers will sacrifice all sorts of things for a better image. So now, assuming this camera comes to market what happens to the D400 or pro crop body segment? Is Nikon going to abandon them? Who would buy a more robust D400 when the D600 will most likely have a better sensor? Again, I think most photographers are gonna go image quality over other features. These aren't necessarily critiques by the way... it's just odd to me.

^ Agree. Nikon better play their cards right or they are going to stir up a massive hatred from DX and FX camp.

The wise thing to do would be to release a D400 (crop) in a D800 body shell just like the 300/700 shared bodies.

This might be the most controversial camera release ever !

I don't think the D800 removes the need for the D4, D3X yes but not to real pros specially sports shooters stick with their D3/D3s or upgrade to the D4, even photojournalists wil choose the D4.

As for the D400 I don' think there will be one, at least not the way everyone expected it to be, ala D300 upgrade. I think we'll see a D7100 or D8000 at the highend fore DX.

DX: D3200, D5200, D7100 give or take a few letters and numbers
FX: D600, D800, D4

I do think we'll eventually see something between ther D600 and the D800 price wise with less MP and faster Fraqme rates but D800 build quality.

they are forcing those who want 8fps+ onto the D4? or will there be a D800s with faster speed?

probably not ..... traditionally the higher shutter speed bodies have been pro level with the exception of the D300s.... so maybe there will be a D600s?

well i came in to read this posting to see if you would help me understand but i am just more confused now lol

clear as mud

New/updated Nikon D600 specifications:

24.7MP full frame sensor
Weight: 760g (850g with battery and memory cards), the D800 weights 900g
3.2" LCD with 921K dot with ambient sensor control
HDMI output
Video compression: H264/MPEG-4
Full HD with 30p, 25p, 24p, HD with 60p, 50p, 30p, 25p
Viewfinder coverage: 100% for FX , 97% for Dx
The Nikon D600 will have built-in AF motor
The body most probably will be weather sealed
The D600 may not have built-in GPS as initially reported
ISO range: 100-6400 (with Lo-1 ISO 50 and Hi-2 ISO 25,600)
39 AF points (with an option of 11 AF points), 9 cross-type AF points
AF face detection
Exposure compensation: ±5 EV (same as the D800)
The D600 will probably use the EN-EL15 rechargeable Li-ion battery


Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/2012/05/23/newup ... z1vkqo7bD5

Imagine Nikon learns something from Fuji/Olympus and makes the D600 look like one of its classic SLRs such as Fm2n.

A full frame digital Nikon Fm2n will completely shake up the camera market overnight and its guaranteed to sell in insane numbers... But Nikon is a very conservative company and they're not going to shake up their main market - heavy DSLRs.

Heh. Many in the Canon camp are hoping for something similar in the looming mirrorless offering, myself included. I am not holding my breath and I suggest you don't either.

Pics...of (not from) the D600.

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/14/first ... ors.com%29

And its not AF-S, with the small focus tab thing in the lens ring.