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 Post subject: 5d mk3 light leakage??
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:59 am 
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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read. ... e=41145770

so, is it serious issue??
i was thinking about upgrading my 5d to mk3 but seems like there is an issue light leaking into the body .....
i hope none of tpmg members have this issue if they bought mk3 already .....


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:46 pm 
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Wasn't there also an light leaking issue with one of the 70-200 lens as well?
Not sure how that compare to this in terms of scale.


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@chevy, i think there was a light leackage issue with Nikon 24-70 lens .... but again the light leak to the body seems more serious issue than the lens ....especially when it is brand new new body


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That's the new lomography feature, what do you think you're paying 3500 for?


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@Bartimus :) now it all makes sense ;)


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According to Canon Rmours no, this is not a "serious issue."

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So is this an issue?
On the body I tested, it doesn’t appear to be. If the camera acts properly with the lens cap off, who cares how it acts with the caps on? So please don’t return your 5D Mark IIIs, or cancel preorders or overreact. This “issue” may have a simple explanation.

However, if Canon says something is wrong, I apologize…… it just doesn’t appear there is an issue to me.


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I've been aware of this since 40D. Doesn't make a difference when shooting, in my experience. Overblown issue, IMHO. Some Pentax bodies had this too. haven't checked Nikon or Sony.


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strip a 5DIII

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/04/5d-iii-strip-tease


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To Users of the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera

Thank you for using Canon products.

The phenomenon described below has been confirmed when using the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera.
Canon is now examining the countermeasures and once the countermeasures are decided, we will post the information on our Web site.

Phenomenon
In extremely dark environments, if the LCD panel illuminates, the displayed exposure value may change as a result of the AE sensor’s detection of light from the LCD panel.

Affected Product
Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera

Support
Once the preparations are complete, we will be making an announcement on our Web site.

This information is for residents of the United States and Puerto Rico only. If you do not reside in the USA or Puerto Rico, please contact the Canon Customer Support Center in your region.


Canon USA


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ions wrote:
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To Users of the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera

Thank you for using Canon products.

The phenomenon described below has been confirmed when using the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera.
Canon is now examining the countermeasures and once the countermeasures are decided, we will post the information on our Web site.

Phenomenon
In extremely dark environments, if the LCD panel illuminates, the displayed exposure value may change as a result of the AE sensor’s detection of light from the LCD panel.

Affected Product
Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera

Support
Once the preparations are complete, we will be making an announcement on our Web site.

This information is for residents of the United States and Puerto Rico only. If you do not reside in the USA or Puerto Rico, please contact the Canon Customer Support Center in your region.


Canon USA



So can you not just turn off the LCD panel in these situations? Seems like a simple fix to me.


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i think the idea is that you shouldn't have to


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yeah ... the issue is that people paid over 4000$ and expect to have a flagship camera that can be reliable in any kind of settings ...


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Lol. Much ado over nothing.


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While we all want something to make our job easier, and I agree we all want something to work perfectly out of the box, the amount of change of exposure is incremental. For non manual shooting, I'm usually adjusting something in Lightroom anyway, and almost never shoot with the LCD lit. I doubt this will impact a single photographer I know that shoots for paid gigs. If you honestly think this will impact you, then you shouldn't be buying this camera anyway, stick with a used Rebel or a S90.


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Do you know any that get paid for astral photography or fine art night painting stuff? Admittedly it is a small/non issue for most of us but not nessarily for everyone.


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ions wrote:
Do you know any that get paid for astral photography or fine art night painting stuff? Admittedly it is a small/non issue for most of us but not nessarily for everyone.

I suspect that anyone interested in that niche will use a 60Da instead:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/03 ... hotography


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Now that I see this video, I'm realizing that this really is a serious issue. If that tiny amount of light affects metering, I'm sure the sun shining down on your camera does the same, if not more. While anyone who uses this camera should know how to compensate, it would be really annoying to pay that much money for a camera whos metering system you can't really rely on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 5Dgb2gbiwk


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I've already used the 5D3 for a shoot and exposure was bang-on.


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sabesh wrote:
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Do you know any that get paid for astral photography or fine art night painting stuff? Admittedly it is a small/non issue for most of us but not nessarily for everyone.

I suspect that anyone interested in that niche will use a 60Da instead:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/03 ... hotography


I mean the type where you shoot a field of stars with earthly foreground, different than what is done with the 60D.

The sun shining down on it isn't going to affect exposure.


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ions wrote:
The sun shining down on it isn't going to affect exposure.


If something like a low powered LED affects the metering, why would you think direct sunlight wouldn't? No one is saying that the light is necessarily hitting the sensor and affecting the exposure, they're saying the LED is throwing the meter off. If you're shooting anything but Manual, sure it will probably affect the exposure of the photo as it might make a poor judgement based on the invalid meter reading. How far off will it be? It totally depends on the lighting conditions surrounding the camera, most of the time it will probably be negligible. Is it a HUGE issue? Hard to say, I only use the meter in my camera 5-10% of the time, I shoot RAW and can adjust exposure, but I would still be ticked off if I spent all that money and it had a faulty meter. Even if it does turn out that this is completely normal, and that most Canon and Nikon DSLR's display this behavior, I still wouldn't be too happy about it, at least not at the price range of these cameras.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh7OaF0Qh0Q


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Discussion here, if anyone's actually passionate about this topic :)

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/sho ... 573&page=4


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If I owned this camera I would take it out on a bright sunny afternoon, switch it to spot metering and attempt to meter someone in total shade while the camera is under the sun. If the metering isn't affected, I would just deal with it. There shouldn't be defects like this in cameras in this price range, Nikon or Canon; but if Canon users have been putting up with practically useless AF for so long, this shouldn't be a deal breaker. :lol:


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BaRTiMuS wrote:
If I owned this camera I would take it out on a bright sunny afternoon, switch it to spot metering and attempt to meter someone in total shade while the camera is under the sun. If the metering isn't affected, I would just deal with it. There shouldn't be defects like this in cameras in this price range, Nikon or Canon; but if Canon users have been putting up with practically useless AF for so long, this shouldn't be a deal breaker. :lol:

I have done that and compared against my Sekonic. All good. You seem to be quite interested in this issue, more so than 5D3 users . Do you plan to get one?


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i don't understand why people still think it's okay to have these kind of issues when even Canon admitted this issue need to be adressed ...:)


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i don't understand why people still think it's okay to have these kind of issues when even Canon admitted this issue need to be adressed ...:)

Because Canon cares about even the little issues. This issue only bothers armchair shooters and strongly embraced by bitter trolls to somehow knock Canon to feel good about their non-Canon purchases :) I really can't think of another explanation why this is being blown out of proportion, especially by non-Canon shooters. My copy of the 5D3, for one, appears perfect, as I can't replicate this "issue". Even if I did have the "issue", it really wouldn't bother me, lol.


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Personally, the most interesting thing about this issue to me, a Nikon shooter, is the fact that some have mentioned that its not new and that many cameras experience this, Canon and Nikon alike.

Just because you care about issues like this whether they affect you personally or not; it doesn't make you an armchair shooter or troll; it makes you someone interested in talking about gear, in the hardware section, of a forum. Even though it's an issue that may be blown out of proportion, it's good to see this kind of quality control by the customers and it's interesting to have these discussions. This is still a discussion forum isn't it?

Don't be quick to judge someone who likes to participate in discussions on forums. This is an interesting topic whether it affects your camera or not. No need to be defensive, I'm sure you didn't waste your money.


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BaRTiMuS wrote:
Personally, the most interesting thing about this issue to me, a Nikon shooter, is the fact that some have mentioned that its not new and that many cameras experience this, Canon and Nikon alike.

Just because you care about issues like this whether they affect you personally or not; it doesn't make you an armchair shooter or troll; it makes you someone interested in talking about gear, in the hardware section, of a forum. Even though it's an issue that may be blown out of proportion, it's good to see this kind of quality control by the customers and it's interesting to have these discussions. This is still a discussion forum isn't it?

Yeah it's a discussion forum, but what's the point of harping the same thing over and over again? Look at my post about the D800 and it's issues. Stated once and that's it. Hopefully someone finds it helpful. I won't beat it to death.


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No issues on mine! :-)


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No issues on mine! :-)

Good to hear. I'm loving the AF on this. What a difference from Mk2 eh? Great not to focus and re-compose, lol.


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