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Now you're talking! Official announcement coming Monday at 4:00pm. To be released with 18mm f2, 35mm f1.4 and 60mm f2.4. Also Leica M lens to X mount adapter to be released later this year. Camera is physically about the same size as the M9.




http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/

I hope it has an effective method for focusing manual lenses (focus peaking ala the Sonys?).

I really didn't expect this announcement but it looks good!

An interview with the Managing Director Canon Image Communication Business Division reveals that Canon will be releasing a mirrorless system in 2012. He emphasizes sensor image quality over size of the camera and the need for smaller lenses. Looks like the Canon and Fuji systems could be the big mirrorless high-end quality systems of 2012. Also Olympus will be releasing a new non-PEN micro 4/3 camera with built in viewfinder next month.

Interesting year ahead.

Amazon already taking US orders for the Fuji
X-Pro1 body $1699, 18mm and 35mm $499, 60mm macro $599

That price point for the fuji is way too high. Needs to be sub $800 for most to consider imho.

You know what I don't understand about mirrorless? The presumption is that removing the mirror/prism saves space and allows you to create smaller cameras, but old film slr's are the same size as today's mirrorless cameras, and they have a mirror/prism, so.. i don't get it.

I was hoping for a full frame with a rangefinder mechanism.

More retro mirrorless news:
"What Olympus is going to announce the second week of February is a new OM styled Micro Four Thirds camera! Unlike the upcoming Fuji X PRO 1 camera that is going to be announced soon (follow MirrorlessRumors for that) the new Olympus camera will have a new type of viewfinder placed in the middle of the camera. The camera has a super high body quality and while I don’t have 100% reliable specs now I have been assured that it has super new kind of viewfinder. I think Olympus decision to revive the OM camera history is good news. I always liked these cameras. "

Actually BaRTiMus mirorless cameras are significantly thinner than film cameras. I have Olympus OM, Canon FD and M42 screw mount lens adapters for my old film camera lenses to use on my micro 4/3 Olympus and you should see how huge the adapters are (because the distance between the lens mount and the film plane is a lot larger than between lens mount and mirrorless sensor).

The space is taken up by the computer that runs the camera - vs Film which took up .3mm of space at the back of the camera between spools.

I agree ... its too expensive. I just bought the Nikon 1 V1 -- and loving this little camera - and the price was not bad at $900 with kit lens.

But micro 4/3's cameras need a computer to run the camera too.

I guess it's a bit of both, the lack of mirror/prism and cameras internals that allow it to be smaller. I'm not totally convinced that DSLR's cant be sized down to something more akin to these types of cameras though. I bet they can get pretty close.

maybe the camera is mostly consumed by air who knows.

If you watch any of the available camera tear downs on YouTube, you'll find that most of the body is in fact fairly densely packed with internals. Not a lot of open space in there.

I was kidding... Like I said -- mostly packed full of electronics vs mirror and shutter assembly and film spools and motors. Camera's have changed greatly in internal design.

translation of leaked Italian press release, this part about the sensor looks like a real breakthrough, this camera is not just a cosmetic makeover:

"For this camera, Fujifilm has developed a new CMOS sensor called X-TransTM CMOSTM which is able to provide a response similar to that of a sensor “full frame”.

The new array (CFA – Color Filter Array) opens the way for an ideal sensor that does not require an optical low-pass filter. This filter is in fact essential for the reduction of false colors and moiré generated by conventional sensors, but at the same time, also degrades the resolution. Fujifilm has developed a new matrix that is inspired by the CFA random arrangement of the grain in the film, eliminating the need for optical low-pass filter to solve the problems of false colors and moiré. In the matrix, RGB pixels are arranged in groups of 6×6 pixels with high aperiodicity (randomness). Increasing the degree of randomness eliminates the root cause of the false color and moiré, a problem that occurs in conventional matrix elements during the filming of rows and other repeating patterns. The presence of a pixel R, G and B in each series of horizontal and vertical pixels minimizes the generation of false colors and provides superior color reproduction themselves.

The use of a matrix inspired by the film has necessitated a more powerful processor to process image data for this FUJIFILM EXR Processor Pro has created this project to optimize the potential of the Trans-X sensor CMOSTM providing high speed and high-precision image processing."

I figured, but since I was waffling on whether or not you were, I figured I'd post just in case

$1700 USD - looks like body only too

I think that's the kit price - comes with a lens for that price. other lenses are extra$$$

I wouldn't say that, but its different... and for someone looking to carry a compact camera - it fits the bill.

Fuji is claiming its sensor will deliver images better than a full-frame 5D Mk II. It will be interesting to see the detailed reviews and see if this is true.

Canadian pre-orders now online, body with 35mm f1.4 lens - $1494
http://www.expansys.ca/fujifilm-x-pro1+ ... nL5HPStwNw

Henrys has egg on their face after jumping the gun with a absurd price, body only - $1700
http://www.henrys.com/67467-FUJIFILM-X- ... -BODY.aspx

Smaller & lighter than a SLR, about the same size as a Leica M9, lot smaller lenses than the Sony NEX 7

The Expansys link does not work anymore I was going to order one and cancel my NEX7 order.

wait for a year and there'll be tonnes of used ones at $400-500 less

They seemed to be the only ones with that price which leads me to believe it was too good to be true. The Henrys number is probably more accurate, unfortunately.

I was speaking to a Vistek rep last night about this camera - he is very excited about the camera, but I did make the statement about how expensive it was. He said that the target market was more towards the Leica crowd. All I have to say is .... ya, but people shoot Leica because "Its Leica"... its like saying, hey you Porshe people .... here is a really nice Mazda.

You can thank all the people who purchased the X100 at full pop for the X-Pro-1 pricing.

The X100 was Fuji's trial balloon - when it sold out everywhere and did better than they expected - it told Fuji something about the demand for expensive retro looking products. Make it look like a Leica and you can command half of a Leica prices.

The Fuji rep came in the store last week and I was able to see a preproduction model. Viewfinder is very big and bright. Not too sure about build quality and button locations. But my issues are just aesthetics. Have to see the ISO and IQ performance.

I personally prefer a camera with a bit of heft to it. The X-Pro 1 is very light. Both the camera and the lens (35/1.4) felt quite plastic-y. It seemed like the X100 build quality felt better.